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Usually I agree with most everything that chwherittakesu writes, however not this time.
you do agree that the fine is excessive, so you do have some
understanding of the plight of the vast majority of citizens out here.
way things are set up now is a clear example of government 'predation'
pure and simple. The fine does not fit the crime, there is no possible
way to justify it either. It's completely wrong and immoral.
reason I call inspectors Gestapo , I actually don't use that term any
longer I call them TRISTAPO is because they use the exact same
techniques as the Gestapo used in Germany. Boarding trains and checking
papers randomly without probable cause. The inspectors make the
assumption that everyone is a fare evader and everyone that is inspected
is expected to give up their rights and comply. That is fascism, you
have no rights in the face of random inspections.
me take this one step further, I assume you have been working at Trimet
at least 15 years so you are fully aware that for 10 years prior to Herr
Mcfarlane showing up there was a large fareless square and minimal
investment made to enforcement. Trimet did not make the necessary
obligations to secure their transit system but decided 'walk on' was
Then Mcfarlane shows up and decides
that everything needs to change, except the securment of the stations.
If Trimet was serious about fares rather than intruding on peoples lives
they would have secured the stations, heavens knows they spend
multimillions on everything else.
Mcfarlane then raises
the fares to the level of highest in the country for short trips and
hires dozens of white shirted Tristapo to plague riders. Add to that
TVM's that don't work and what you have is one of the most abusive
transit systems in the world. Ridership has plummeted under Mcfarlanes
iron fisted rule.
You comment that 'trimet doesn't get
rich off the fines'. What you forget to understand is that Trimet is a
cog in the thing called 'government machinery'. The fine is used to pay
for other governmental operations. You hear Trimet big shots always
referring to their 'partners'. Well those 'partners' are other
governmental units and you may be aware that there are constant
'intergovernmental agreements' between them. In other words, THEY
SUPPORT EACH OTHER.
And in regards to this comment:
should know they are taking the risk. You don't charge a shoplifter
who steals a pair of jeans just the price of the jeans if they are
caught. You charge them $250-500 plus the possibility of jail time so
they think twice about doing it.''
But then you make this comment:
watched many of these guys who cite the fare evaders. ON AVERAGE (not
every day) out of every 10 people stopped; 7 are prior offenders with
MORE than 1 prior offense (so they havn't learned their lesson),"""
just proved yourself wrong, THE FARE CITATIONS DON'T EVEN WORK AS A
DETERRENT TO REPEAT OFFENDERS! REPEAT OFFENDERS OBVIOUSLY ARE NOT
WORRIED AT ALL ABOUT THE STUPID FARE EVASION RULES BECAUSE THERE IS NO
REAL PENALTY FOR IGNORING THEM. So they go to jail for a night, they
obviously don't fear that much, the probably brag about it.