Wednesday, December 31, 2008

{“This is one of those ‘lessons learned,’ ” said Steve Banta, the regional transit agency’s executive director of operations.}

Some of you folks may have already forgotten that we had a similar storm in 2004. That was when the lesson's were supposed to be learned.

We have a similar line (we will conduct a formal "lessons learned") from FRED HANSEN himself in his WES debacle.

FRED, you've had 11 years to learn your lessons.

If you haven't learned them by now your never going to learn them.


There is no accountability and perhaps TRIMET can continue in its bumbling ways.

We have a bumbling Governor who is supposed to be in charge of these things, all he is interested in is giving himself a raise and raising our fees to pay for it.

TRIMET puts all its eggs into rail, then rail fails and bus bails it out.

What's wrong with that picture?
"All of the big companies that inhabited Downtown Portland like Willamette Industries, Georgia Pacific, Louisiana Pacific, Hyster, Evans Products, Albina Fuel, Columbia Sportswear, KPTV/KPDX, US Bank Operations Center, Bank of Hong Kong and even Pamplin Media Group have left the City of Portland in the last 20 years"

~~>MARK-they are not just leaving Portland, THEY HAVE LEFT THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA!

"You don't have to look very far for a source that operating costs for light rail are lower than buses."

~~~>Your not including the capital costs to put the thing in of course!

"Railcars may last a little longer, but they cost ten times as much to buy. And rail maintenance is far more expensive, whereas buses share the cost of road maintenance with autos and trucks."

~~~>There ya go, thank you!

"To "just some facts", I have noticed that "al m" doesn't pay attention to facts--he just enjoys spouting his frequently uninformed opinion."

~~~>Thank you Jane, I always enjoy the wonderful compliments that I get over at this blog! Please, continue showering me with them! I LOVE IT!

Tuesday, December 30, 2008

Where is Ms Ruiz's resume?

Let's take a look at it!


Glad to see that SAM is no different than George Bush in how he appoints people to his administration.

Can WW please get a copy of the job description for this City of Portland Pork Barrel position!

They can't fix the pot holes or plow the snow but they can fund garbage like this.


The official "line" is this, Crc was the only manufacturer that could meet the federal specs.

Of course Fred coulda applied for a waiver to some of the specs, but that would have taken time.

Fred wanted his train and was willing to do anything to get it.

It's tax money, so who cares right?

We don't see this just at TRIMET, we see it at all levels of government.

These bureaucrats take take take like they own America.

And they do, since there aint s**t we can do about it.

Its a freaking disgrace. Look at Kulingowski, gives himself a $30k raise then decides they don't have enough money so he raises our fees.

Now Fred says this to his employees:

"First, I am asking for a 5% reduction in continuing expenses in both service and division budgets."

He has just spent millions on an untested peak service only commuter train, but he now wants to cut everything else.


And trying to blame it on the retirees is just not gonna wash!

""Did he hit him with or without the "hot wax" option?""

What a crack up!

Tragic story however. The pathetic robber who must be So low down on his luck that he tried this silly robbery.

And then the poor attendant ends up in jail himself;

"When he was released from jail Monday night, Truax still was wearing his bright orange Washman winter hat, orange work shirt and blue Washman coat."


OH BOY, we are all in for big trouble in little Portland.
In case y'all forgotten, the "city that works" had no money to fix the potholes, remember?
What is going to happen next summer when all the plowing and chains becomes one huge mess of potholes on our streets?

Maybe we have to shut off the public toilet for now and get rid if some of these "sustainability" management personnel and use that money for roads.

Nah, Sam will just come begging to the citizens for another tax increase.

And Portlander's will probably give it to him!

Monday, December 29, 2008

"Happy with himself and just a happy person are two different things. Do you know Al ? I do. Al would give you the shirt of his back."

~~>Hmmm...? Interesting comment!

"1. It helps to be slightly out of whack to work for TriMet.2. PGE workers have a God complex."

~~>What a great post! LOVE IT!

"Some people make me think the human race needs thinning."

~~>Uh huh, whatever.

"Beer trucks,park where they should not as well as many other delivery trucks. You don't get a free pass for your company's needs. Armored trucks park illegally almost all of the time."

~~>He's right ya know!

"You would be one of those drivers that like to come to close and send a message,I see it all the time."

~~~> Uh? Hmm? Could you please define "one of THOSE drivers?"

Gee, these blogs entries have gotten sorta weird since last I visited this page.

There is a lot of ANTI TRIMET bias on this blog, there always has been, always will be, no big deal.

People are entitled to their opinions, no matter how crazy, off target, or just weird they are.


and I have immortalized him in my hall of the insane:

Friday, December 26, 2008

"I'm not here to make any excuses," Adams said. But he noted that the city had a small fleet of about 50 snowplows -- compared with 92 in Spokane, which is about half the size of Portland."

~~>What does this tell you about Portland Government?

"My hope is that we will be able to find the resources to cover this cost with the revenues we do have," he said."

~~>Don't come running to the public for your lame public policy planning, ITS MISMANAGEMENT as usual.

"The let-it-thaw approach does not extend to residents who still are obligated by city ordinance to clear their sidewalks"

~~>Its quite something to observe how good our beloved city government is at telling us what to do but at the same time THEY HAVE NO ACCOUNTABILITY!


~~>Gone fishing obviously. Why did he even run for mayor I wonder?

"Sub it out to small businesses which need a boost anyway."


"Why doesn't Adams propose to spend the city's $2Million and buy Portlanders shovels. Or, Portland could recycle our old yellow recycling bins--just slap a handle on them and melt the 1 million or so bins we all now have in our garages"

~~~>LOL!!!!!LOL!!!! To funnyyyyyyyyyyy!

It's just bad public planning, pure and simple.

Portland's got all kinds of fluffy programs that cost millions of dollars but nothing for the real stuff:


(but the tram and the streetcar were moving, mobility for the rich in the pearl and the doctors/administrators/etc at the hospital

It's Portland don't forget.

I'm sure there is a new tax headed our way.

It's probably not much different anywhere.

Government works for itself, not for the people, and we see this over and over and over.

What is it gonna take for Americans to rise up and say:


Thursday, December 25, 2008

"Cancel all those "pet projects" that you have had brewing for years. The "bridge over nothing", the "Hotel Eastside", the "Streetcar for the Rich but doesn't move people"..."

~~>Amen brother Amen, says it all! They don't have the equipment cause they want other things in this city.

"All the bike boxes were plowed and sanded, as were the streets in front of the illegal alien day-labor center and the world's most expensive porta-potty. Hats off to Randy and the mayor!"

~~>nah, that's not true is it? Nah, can't be right?

"We dont salt because we dont want to hurt the salmon lol???????????? In the meantime the next major rain storm there will be turds floating the willamette and you better stay away for a couple days due to the overflow."

~~>WHAT A GREAT COMMENT!!! LOL!!!LOL!!! Aint it da truth!

"Portland is the perfect example of a left-wing city that literally taxes the hell out of you while you get virtually nothing for your "contribution to society."

~~~>There is quite a bit of truth in that statement.

"For supposed right-wing conservatives, a group that used to be known for a "take care of yourself" and "anti-big-government" attitude, you sure have become a bunch of "entitlement" whiners. Shame on you. Pull up your bootstraps and grab a shovel like the rest of us."


"It resembles charity that spends 99% on the administration expenses and only 1% goes to the poor. "


TRIMET does a great disservice to the public by not making it clear that YOUR BUS MIGHT NOT SHOW UP AT ALL! "Expect 30 minute delays" is not the appropriate language to be putting out on the media.

TRIMET is not reponsible for the poorly maintained roads and can't be blamed for the bus service breaking down.

The City of Portland is inept at handling routine infrastructure problems, but great at throwing money at pork barrel project that serve only a select few of the population.

Hell Portland can't even fix the potholes, what makes you think they are capable of plowing the streets.

One of the more notorious reporters AMY RUIZ, just got appointed to Sam Adams staff as: STRATEGIC PLANNING AND SUSTAINABILITY POLICY ADVISOR.

Probably pays 85K with full benefits, retirement, etc.

Portland concentrates on the stuff that nobobdy actually needs.

King Luis put it the best; LET EM EAT CAKE. (we all know what happened to King Luis).

It would have been an obvious solution to PLOW ALL THE ROADS THAT THE BUSES USE.

Why they didnt do that?

Who knows.

They probably don't talk to each other.

Wednesday, December 24, 2008

"The team that should be called onto the carpet are the road crew mgmt."

~~>This is where the failure is, road's are NOT PASSABLE!

"It's fine to cancel the yellow and red line, but then run extra trains on the blue line to make them come every 5 minutes. Otherwise every train is packed to the brim and I have to wait two trains before getting on."

~~>Very good points. Can't really argue against any of the issues brought up in this post.

"Look deep into the financials of mass transit. It's a constant plot to expand and raise fares with no regard for the general public."

~~>RIGHT, it's a massive conspiracy to bilk the tax payers out of their money, along the same lines as the conspiracy to make American's think that OSWALD killed Kennedy! GIMME A BREAK WILL YA?

"Lest we forget that Tri-Met is run by Metro and Metro answers to no one except the voters!!"

~~>Incorrect, TRIMET does not answer to the METRO, but to the state legislature and the governor

The freezing switch problems are the only real failure of TRIMET.
That problem was supposed to be solved during that last storm several years ago.
As we all can see it WAS NOT SOLVED.



That is a road maintenance failure!

Now why don't the road crews make sure that the bus routes are passable before anything else?


Tuesday, December 23, 2008

"Randy hero until all this started.. draws his salary as an elected official and 48K from the fire fighters disability fund. That's 150K a year"

~~>Wait a minute, how is it that Leonard can draw disability when he is working? I thought disability meant that YOU CANNOT WORK? What?

"I remember a couple years ago there were two married inspectors who would condemn houses , kick the owners out and then buy them cheaply for re-sale. Nothing was done to the crooks!"

~~>I remember that story! What ever happened to those two crooks? Don't tell me they still work for the "city that works"!

Hahaha, what a joke!

"When I pointed this out to the Tri-Met flunky onboard he replied, "Well, that's the way they talk these days" and walked away."

~~>I don't suppose you've heard of FREEDOM OF SPEECH? And I got news for you, that is the way people talk nowadays, FLUNKY!


~~>That was funny!

"Man. There are some seriously disturbed people who comment on these articles."

~~>LOL!!!LOL!!! You noticed that did you!! LOL!!!LOL!!!

"If they are not essential,
why are we hiring them to work in the first place?"

~~> Ya know what? YOUR RIGHT!

"OMG SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO GLAD not here for Jet Ranger 1, Jet Ranger 2, ad nauseum Storm Tracker Artic Blast 2008 Reports,,,,,,etc etc etc"

~~> LOL!! hahaha..........

"We used to rely upon ourselves, not government, and we were better off."

~~>Mark is the only right winger around here that makes any sense


Soo we are having another hate fest at the TRIBUNE BLOG.
Sure its disgraceful, I agree.
But is it any different than the Federal Government?
Or the State Government?
Or the private sector, as in the Savings and Loans?
Or the American auto industry?
Or Enron?


And as much as I can't stomach the majority of posters to this blog, I do have to admit, the TRIBUNE BLOG is the most entertaining blog in Portland!

I don't want to be a spoil sport here since the street car did come through in this particular emergency.

Of course there are plenty of scenarios that would knock the streetcar COMPLETELY OUT OF THE BALLPARK!

But what I am trying to say is the buses WOULD HAVE RUN FINE IF THE STREETS WERE CLEARED!

So why were the [expletive deleted] streets not clear?

Because the CITY OF PORTLAND (and Washington County) does not prioritize this in their budget!

The streets were not cleared for the same [expletive deleted] reason that the pot holes are not filled!

This sort of management has to stop. It's inexcusable.

The mismanagement is rampant among all of our governmental agencies and gives ADRON HALLS free market theory much credibility!

"Anyways, stranger still, was that TWO bus 20s arrived less than a minute later. 20 miles in 1 minute? Thats like 1,200 miles per hour! Nice, Trimet!"

Yea, that was strange the way the transit tracker was telling us how far away the bus was in miles?

I know one thing about using TRIMET in these conditions.

Buses ARE NOT reliable.

Stick with the max and use your feet for the rest.

Luckily I live within walking distance of the max.

Max service ALWAYS TAKES PRIORITY over the buses.

You see this played out during these kind of events.

Buses have a tendency to NEVER SHOW UP!

"He has no problem making PUBLIC comments about the WES system, but where is he about the BUS system? "

~~~Funny you should ask that because I just saw Fred up on 21st Avenue today around 1pm!
I'm 90% sure it was him! So what's he doing? I presume he is "on vacation".

"WES should have been abandoned."

~~>I agree, it should never have been started. Now we hear from Fred the following;

""First, I am asking for a 5% reduction in continuing expenses in both service and division budgets. This would result in a savings of approximately $11 million.
Second, we will lengthen the pension funding to soften the impact of recent market losses for a $7.7 million annual savings.""

So Fred has started new "rush hour" service while he can't even keep what we have going!

"62% of riders use both Bus and MAX, 23% are MAX-Only, and 15% are Bus-Only."

~~~I gotta tell ya, as someone who has followed Trimet news for quite awhile now, I am suspicious of Trimet statistics. Has there ever been an independent audit of the statistics Trimet provides?

FRED wants to cut existing service while starting new service.


Fred is following the Corporate line right now. Blame everything on the stock market, can a bunch of your low level employees, then do whatever he wants with the bailout money.

How long are American's going to stand for this?
This is mismanagement of the first degree.

Yea on the second part of your question.

Come up to NW 23rd and you'll see plenty of clear sidewalks.

Big modern city? HA! You gotta be joking.
It doesn't snow in Portland, didn't ya know that?

Friday, December 19, 2008

WOW, that's quite an explanation.

Obviously "cwherewetku" must work in TRIMET operations.

As a TRIMET operator myself I can tell you that virtually all of us operators really strive to do the best we can during this sort of event and provide the best service possible.

The public needs to be prepared and dressed PROPERLY!

You could be out there a long long time.

Buses break down, buses get stuck, things don't go smoothly.


Virtually all bus drivers WILL STOP FOR YOU if possible if you signal you want the bus!

Think that the bus IS NOT COMING, don't let other people take responsibility for you!

Take care of yourself!

WOW, that's quite an explanation.

Obviously "cwherewetku" must work in TRIMET operations.

As a TRIMET operator myself I can tell you that virtually all of us operators really strive to do the best we can during this sort of event and provide the best service possible.

The public needs to be prepared and dressed PROPERLY!

You could be out there a long long time.

Buses break down, buses get stuck, things don't go smoothly.


Virtually all bus drivers WILL STOP FOR YOU if possible if you signal you want the bus!

Think that the bus IS NOT COMING, don't let other people take responsibility for you!

Take care of yourself!

Thursday, December 18, 2008


I hope that people realize that when Jason made the comment about management being "morons" that it was an off handed comment made during a stressful situation and shouldn't be taken too seriously.

Some people have more problems with the management than others.

I happen to be a TRIMET bus driver and don't share that sentiment.

Compared to the last big storm we had several years ago, things are running exceptionally smoothly, so there were lessons learned over the years!

Tuesday, December 16, 2008

This was a major blunder, without doubt.

But to buy into the anti Trimet, anti Government rhetoric spewed around the internet by the folks who make such statements as;

"Tri-Met has been a massive, costly failure by virtually every measure"

is so absurdly ridiculous as to be comic.

The Trimet system is WORLD RENOWNED, and not because it is a massive costly failure.

The buses are packed, the Max is packed, so take your anti Trimet soapbox and get a real life.

Monday, December 15, 2008

“Light rail is about wasting taxpayers money”

~~~>oh come on mr “””””,


so they sit around the table all the big shots and say,

‘hmm, what can we think of next in order to waste the tax payers money eh?’


“It's being forced upon us by government.”

~~>You mean like the war in Iraq, which of course makes the light rail debate moot in terms of $$$$.


“I would support rail, if it was self supporting, but it is not.”

~~>And highways are self supporting? GIMME A BREAK!


“I think alot of the comment writers here are actually libertarians who have a grudge against light rail and just about any other public investment, save for roads”

~~>I guess you figured that out did ya? Doesn’t take long to see where these folks are at.

Anything that helps the public they hate.


“only 5 % of the Metro (greater Portland) area use transit. That is pretty poor, back in the 1960's Around 20 % used Rose city transit in their operating area.”

~~PATHETIC, COMPLETELY PATHETIC, go out sometimes and look at the buses and trains around 5pm weekdays. Stop living in your world blinded by your own ideology.


“If there is any increase in taxes, they should go to schools, police and fire and social services,not diverted to Light Rail. Especially in times like we are in today.”

~~>Same old gibberish from the same old clucking chickens of the Portland Tribune blog. Anything that helps the public, FORGET IT!


“TriMet needs to live within it's means like the rest of us do!”

~~>Oh I see, like the federal government that just prints money whenever it needs it, or Enron, just cook the books, or how bout the crooks in the savings and loan industry.



“Urban Renewal takes money that would have gone to Schools, Police, Fire and Social services and diverts it to Projects like Light Rail”

~~>HEY  ******* [word censored by Tribune] , transit is a form of social service, DUH?


“Light rail has proven over 29n years to not to reduce congestion.Not to attrack business or development.Not to be sustainable.”

~~>YAWN, what’s your answer smart guy? Build more roads? Do nothing? SHEESH, and you call yourself educated?




All they can do is blog their idiotic point of view, because basically nobody agrees with them.


Thursday, December 11, 2008

Yea, but the property owners along the line are going to reap HUGE BENEFITS in the value of their properties!

And that was all this light rail is really about, property value and economic development, not transit.

(cars are doomed by the way, public planning to along the lines of increased automobiles is worse than light rail)

Wednesday, December 10, 2008

You sure have a lot of faith in the so called "market".

Even with all this going on right now, obvious failures of the "market".

And guess who is bailing your beloved "market"?

That's right old buddy,


Socialism saves capitalism, again.

Markets are great when it comes to things like ma and pa stores. (destroyed by Walmart, hey it’s a free market)

But capitalism is founded on one of the worst of human traits, GREED!

And when greed is in control you have things like SLAVERY, POVERTY WAGES, NO ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTIONS, and on and on.

BTW- I agree with you on the congestion pricing nonsense.

I WOULD NOT own a car if not for my job.

I live in NW Portland and everything is within walking distance and if you need to get somewhere transit from here is EXCELLENT.

As a matter of fact I didn’t use a car for years relying strictly on transit to get to work (at the transit) until one day I got sick and decided to drive.

I got home an hour earlier than usual that night which lead me to arrive at the following conclusion.

What the hell kind of idiot am I? I could be getting home an hour earlier? Hell with this green nonsense.

I never took transit again to and from work. It’s been about 3 years now. I had been relying on transit exclusively for about 6 years till then.

Tuesday, December 9, 2008

Cheers for commentators:

"Centennial Neighbor"


"Bill loves it"





BOO’S for commentators;

"truthspeaker" [interesting choice of a blog title, given the word seems to mean so little to you]

"aloycius" [ a very large hiss for you]

"Chris McMullen"[the free market has worked extremely well don’t you agree, just think, without the unions you could still employ ten year olds for $1 a day]

"UB" [is there some particular reason you write in a comic book style, perhaps to make your already ludicrous and funny comments even funnier?]

"Sizemore Fan" [no additional comment needed]

"Chris "[must be related to chris mullen]


Good riddance Sizemore the opportunist. Reminds me of Jim and Tammy Baker, anything for a buck.

Sizemore as a true blue American, found a cause and turned it into his own personal goldmine.

Never for a minute did he care about the principle of the thing, he just cared about the money.

"Public restrooms are a requirement for a city that touts its "friendliness" to not only tourists, but residents as well."

~~~~>Wholeheartedly agree!

"We are not friendly to business....PERIOD!"

~~~>I got news for you, during my morning read through the various internet publications I enjoy, (Tribune of course included) there was an article stating JUST THE OPPOSITE! 65% of businesses stated that they think Portland is a great place to do business.

Well, its always so much fun reading the commentators on the Tribune blog.
So much disgust for everything Portland is, yet they stay, how come?
Why do y'all continue to live here when there is so much about it you hate?

Yes the toilet was overpriced, but so are military toilet seats and useless experimental aircraft.
You folks always pick on ANYTHING THAT HELPS THE PUBLIC.

Instead of TRIMET its TOILETS.

The comments on this blog DO NOT ,


represent what most of Portlanders think about their city.

It's the Bodanski crowd, the Mcain crowd, the Christian fundamentalist crowd, the Fox news crowd.

A scary bunch of people,
luckily they are out of power, at least for now,


"Whine whine whine...


Go Sam Go!

Just to watch these guys pulling out their hair is worth it!



Sunday, December 7, 2008

Liberty, Freedom, and the pursuit of happiness are American ideals.
~~>If you don't have a job and $$$ you have no LIBERTY, FREEDOM, and are unable to pursue much happiness.

One has to become independent, run their own business, invest, or otherwise become self sufficient and be able to step away from owing someone

~~>That's a very nice ideal, and unatainable for most Americans. However it does sound very good. As a matter of fact Adron, you may want to consider publishing American History books, since they  love to perpetuate this sort of 'myth'. I've owned several small businesses, to be honest, I'd rather drive a bus with health care, sick time, vacation time, and even some small money when I am old and decrepit.
Not too many people make it as Bill "the modern day robber barron" Gates has.

These myths are important for Americans. 

Sorta like the "Columbus discovered America" myth. (You see there were actually no people here already, cause they weren't really people)

And the "Thanksgiving" day myth, where all the lovely natives and settlers had one big old lovely time together. Of course they forgot to tell the rest of the tale, like the whole tribe that had partipated in that "feast" was wiped out 50 years later and the head of son of Massasoit, (chief of the tribe that had that feast) was put on a pole and displayed proudly for 10 years proclaiming something to the effect, WE HAVE DEFEATED OUR MORTAL ENEMIES, HERE IS THE HEAD OF THEIR CHIEF.

But the myths are good, gotta keep people believing in something.

Wednesday, November 26, 2008

I find it pretty funny indeed how the anti Trimet crowd keeps popping up on the various blogs always with the same tiresome argument:

"A tragedy of public financing of transit, is that increased ridership does not naturally lead to more service due to fares representing less than 50% of the 'cost' of the ride."

These folks never seem to have any problem with billions of dollars being spent to bailout CEO's of the banking industry, or trillions being wasted on immoral wars waged by private mercenary armies.

ON NO, they pick on TRANSIT as their big anti government issue.

Why should any citizen actually get any sort of subsidy from the federal government.

How dare we subsidize any sort of movement for people that cannot afford to purchase, insure, and maintain their own private vehicles.

These are the same people who voted for McCain. These are the same people who in a past generation were the "anti abolitionists".

It's pathetic.

Tuesday, November 25, 2008


Boy the whining and moaning you guys do over the most ridiculous stuff never ceases to astound me.


Like buildings, sidewalks, TRANSIT CENTERS.

GET OVER YOUR TRIMET PHOBIAS, it makes you all look like ignorant dolts.


"Pouring maple syrup on a cowpie don't make it a pancake Al. People will (rightfully) avoid this station, and Tri Met in general, until they make the system safe."

~~>Nobody has ever explained to me how is it THAT TRIMET IS RESPONSIBLE FOR CRIME IN THE CITIES IT SERVES? Last time I looked crime is HANDLED BY THE POLICE, not the transit agency. Do you call up the police when you need a ride somewhere, no, you call Trimet scheduling or a taxi!

Oh yea, you guys want TRIMET TO PAY FOR IT! Right, as I said previously, TAX DOLLARS ARE TAX DOLLARS ARE TAX DOLLARS. Why don't we (trimet) just open our own police department then, completely independent from all the other existing police departments!

"No they are not and should not be wasted."

~~~>OH I SEE, $700 billion to bankers is not wasted? TRILLIONS spent killing innocent people bankrupting are country are not wasted?

"Light Rail is not sustainable"

~~~>OH, AND THE AUTO INDUSTRY IS? Huh huh, and that's why they are now begging for socialism to save capatalism.

I don't even know why I waste my time trying to reason with unreasonable people such as you folks that comment on the Tribune blog.


"shouldn't Tri Met be responsible for taking measures to install security at its stations or on its trains?"

~~>yes sir, I happen to agree with you here, however this system was designed on the 'honor' system decades ago for reasons that have not fully been explained. Planners should have made entry to max less accessible by securing stations.

HOWEVER, the fact that there might be some people inclined to criminal activity is not the fault of TRIMET!

You contend that somehow TRIMET is reponsible for this behavior, THAT IS ABSURD!

"IF put in a swimming pool, and did not provide a fence, then let anyone and everyone swim there on the honor system, and then someone drowned, you can bet it would be MY BACON for creating a dangerous attraction with no supervision."

~~>That maybe true, however if the person willingly went into your pool then how is that your fault? If some little baby crawled into your pool and drowned then that might be a different story. HOW ARE WE AS A SOCIETY SUPPOSE TO SUPERVISE ALL THE PLACES THAT ADULTS FREQUENT? You want a police officer patrolling every road? That's what your asking of the transit district!

***And the tax dollar issue is a red herring due to all the money that is being flushed down the toilet so as to save the banks and occupy a bunch of innocents in a land that wants nothing to do with us.***


FYI- I AM NOT A LIGHT RAIL SUPPORTER,and there has been an increase in police presence on the system for quite awhile now.


You see nothing good at all, obviously, you were all McCain supporters, focus on the bad, fear, superiority.

Your entitled to feel that way, luckily you're not in control.


"Check the city codes and you would find that simply by HAVING A POOL and NOT FENCING IT, it would be MY FAULT IF ANYONE WERE TO DROWN OR INJURE THEMSELVES in or around my pool."

~~>First of all that is PRIVATE PROPERTY, not usable by the public. Secondly, we do live in a litigious society, which is one of the pitfalls of advanced civilization with multiple levels of bureaucratic systems. Does a public park have a chain link fence on it? Does a city street have a chain link fence?

"In my opinion, by not inspecting for fares, like they used to do when this east side line first came into town, TriMet has created an attractive nuisance."

~~>Your right on this issue, no doubt. But this system was conceptualized 30+ years ago and back then things were "groovy" as you may recall. Yea, that was a stupid thing to do, but this is Portland.

"As for your assertion that I would have to have been a McCain supporter, you could not be any farther off the mark if you tried."

~~>I apologize for that remark. :-(

"In the beginning we were told once light rail was built it would need less money to keep running compared to running buses."

~~>Can you provide any documentation to back up that statement?

"Another genius-level commentary from Al M. the highly educated, dual degree Trimet bus driver."

~~>Here is the usual type of blogger that we run into over here at the TRIBUNE blog. The blogger that has to stoop to some sort of personal attack in order to make themselves feel superior. It's pathetic.

"I will be happyier with Tri-Met when the fare box pays at least 50% of the cost of buses, Trains, tracks, stations and operating cost. It would be a step in the right direction"

~~>Will you please provide me with documentation from any transit system in the world that meets that criteria.

"The purpose of TriMet Bus service is to deliver a small number of the population daily to and from markets, and the cost is justified by additional income tax revenue from business."

~~>I disagree with MARK plenty, but he always understands issues and is literate enough to post complex theories clearly. The above statement is correct.

FURTHERMORE, there is another reason for the light rail fixation, and they never talk about it either:


"Rose City Transit was self supporting and paid taxes before the State and local governments said they could not raise the fare by a nickel."

~~>I would like to see EVIDENCE of this statement. I have asked Jason Mchuff to research this issue.

"It is hard to compete with a government monopoly with taxing authority."

~~>Why don't we just privatize everything then? Like the police and the fire and the water department and the roads. Wonderful idea. THEY CAN ALL FOLLOW THE BANKS EXAMPLES OF HOW TO MANAGE THINGS!


~~>I'm not against that idea, I just don't think it happens anywhere. And why is it such a tremendous crime in your eyes to subsidize movement for people that are unable to afford to purchase, insure, and maintain a private automobile? They hand out subsidies to all sorts of businesses, LIKE THE BANKS FOR THE TUNE OF $700 BILLION, making the whole transit issue A RED HERRING!
"hat does the police,fire,water dept roads and banks have to do with outlawing the private sector from competing with Tri-Met transit monopoly."

~~~>The police, fire, and roads do not allow competition, and the banks are the example of free market failure!

"So are you saying if it is ok to bail out banks it must be ok to bailout Tri-Mets light rail monopoly?"

~~>That's exactly what I am saying! Bailing out multi-million dollar executives is ok in your eyes but subsidizing transit is a big crime eh? Your thinking process needs some fine tuning, SIR!

["Inbreeding Defiles The Gene Pool"]

~~>When you develop the ability to use your mind over your emotions I will attempt to dialog with you.

{"Ever heard of reality?"}

~~>Why don't you try posting in a continuous recognizable blog name, instead of the sniveling coward anonymous way.

I'm used to you guys having been participating on this blog for years now.
Your name calling, attempts to demean me, cowardly anonymity in making your childish posts do not discourage me. Those of you who participate in this sorts of activity just demean yourselves and lower the quality of the TRIBUNE BLOG in general,which is too bad, because I happen to like the PORTLAND TRIBUNE and the way it handles its news stories.
"I'm opposed to bailing out banks and Tri-Met"

~~>Providing public transportation is no different than providing police or fire services, its DOES NOT GENERATE PROFIT.

BTW-Head researcher Jason Mchuff has found that ROSE CITY TRANSIT was about to go out of business!

Monday, November 24, 2008

I think if you look at the facts TRIMET BUS DRIVERS, and transit bus drivers in general, are far more attentive and skilled at driving then any other segment of the driving population.
I don't have statistics at my fingertips, sorry, but I think that if one would research all the fatal accidents that happen in this country and compare how many were transit related due to operator error, it would become quite clear that most of the carnage created on American roadways is indeed caused by non professional drivers.

Human error will always occur when humans are involved, obviously no bus/train operator should be talking on a cell phone when their vehicle is in motion, I give you that.

As y'all can see from the posts above, LOTS OF PEOPLE DO SAY THANKS when exiting the bus.

I'm actually amazed how many people are so completely polite!

In all areas of the Trimet district this applies.

If your gonna drive a transit bus in an American city, Portland is the place to do it!

Saturday, November 22, 2008

The crime here is that the driver LEFT THE SCENE!
Made a bad situation worse by running.
The punishment fits the crime.

Thursday, November 20, 2008

My dear pal Adron;

This is a job for ARMED POLICE, FARE INSPECTORS AND/OR ROAD SUPERVISORS, not for bus drivers.

One of these days this driver will get a bottle broken over his head for his trouble.

And how much money did he really "sniff out" anyway?


GIMME A BREAK, I aint doing it, and any S-A-N-E bus driver would risk thier health or safety doing it either.

I put it to you that the driver you refer to has an 'ego' problem and if he thinks he will be able to survive as a bus driver using this methodology every time he leaves fare less square he is in for a rude awakening.

Well sir, you are indeed entitled to your opinion, and I have always respected your opinion.
The fact that the operators LEFT HIS SEAT, to confront passengers WHO ARE ALREADY BOARDED is prohibited.

If there had been an altercation that driver would have been in serious trouble.

The point that I am trying to make, irregardless of the TRIMET rules is that the way the system is set up, fare enforcement is not possible.


That operator is entitled to do things his way.

He wants to make the job harder than it has to be, good luck to him.

And I still respect your point of view!
Here is the actual regulation from the bus operators guide;

""When leaving fareless square make an announcement reminding customers of the fareless square policy.

+This is the last stop in fareless square, riders who have not purchased a fare need to come forward and purchase a fare at this time. Riders without proof of payment are subject to citation+
The reason I am making an issue of this is not because I am a lazy slacker, but because I am realistic and cautious as to how I handle my responsibilities.


CSI' ARE GENERATED BY FARE ENFORCEMENT. (customer service incident, and each one generated requires the operator to spend time and effort to "justify" whatever action was taken that precipitated the CSI. In TRIMET WORLD, bus drivers are always guilty unless they can prove innocence. The burden of proof is on the operator. I SAY THE HELL WITH THAT!

Your a bus driver, at the same place at the same time each and every day, YOU BETTER DO WHAT IS NECESSARY TO MINIMIZE THE CHANCES OF DEVELOPING ENEMIES.

For $2.30 it aint worth it.

TRIMET needs to handle these issues in another way, aka FARE INSPECTORS, or at the very least, change the transfer/zones/pass/ticket boondoogle that they have created so at least its not so damn complicated to enforce the fares.

I'm watching the wretched auto makers BEG for bailout money.

Alas, had they been producing some of these alternative vehicles maybe they wouldn't be in this position.

Oh yea, I keep forgetting, with the American style of capitalism, when the big boys fail they can always resort to corporate socialism and get bailed out by our tax dollars.

Funny how American citizens just have to suffer and die.

Copenhagen and Amsterdam are in EUROPE!
Portland is in AMERICA!
Completely different cultures.
Bicycles are good I agree, but this weird fixation that happens here in Portland is bizarre.

Wednesday, November 19, 2008

Sure the street car is pork barrel, and sure bus service is more practical, however,
citizens DO PREFER riding street cars over buses (the 'Lexus" effect).

When examining the hierarchy of pork barrel spending
" Tenskwatawa" gets my vote!

Streetcars don't even appear on the radar of Federal pork.

Sheesh, you guys only complain about the stuff you don't like.

What do they call that?


Friday, November 14, 2008

Well, the proper thing for that driver to have done was to stop, and plenty of TRIMET bus drivers would have stopped.

Unfortunately, some just have gotten callous about the whole thing, which is too bad.

Thursday, November 13, 2008


now gimme my prize!

"My opinion is that the bus driver is the enforcer. No ticket? No ride. Smoking? No ride."

-->Well that's all very nice and dandy!
Right, the unarmed bus driver, strapped into his seat, with a passenger towering over him, will be the enforcer. Sorry, but I am not taking my life into my hands over this stuff, take your problems up with the ADA or the unenforceable ticket/transfer/zone/fare structure. The only people that can enforce anything are the ARMED POLICE!

"The Operator’s #1 job is to operate the bus safely and professionally. They don’t have the time, training, or necessary backup to enforce the rules"

--->ERIK always seem to understand the way things REALLY ARE!
"Not sure what TriMet can do about this, but some type of solution should be arrived at."

---->They could do something about it, they don't want too. It's easier to say:
"The fare inspectors, the field supervisors and transit police are responsible for enforcement system wide."

--->Rail rider provides the correct answer to the question
"I still put my foot down about some things, but I had to do it carefully; there is nothing there to back a bus driver up."

--->My technique is to put my head down and shut the bus off and pretend I am having a heart attack, it works wonderfully in shutting people up.
"Apparently that is Tri-Met’s version of “enforcement” nowadays."

--->That has ALWAYS been the TRIMET version of enforcement.


They need to have "teams" of enforcement personnel available to respond, IMMEDIATELY, to incidents, fare evasions, altercations etc. 1/2 the time they don't even answer the call for help, so as far as I am concerned, I am alone, without help, so if you think I am going to risk my life for this absurd crap, FOGETABOUTIT!

I'm sick of this absurd ADA, its time to bring some sanity back into our lives.

"Increasing such a public debt only diminishes consumer spending that would build up the community. "

--->What a load of dog feces. God am I sick of hearing this market baloney.

"If you think about it, taxpayers have been constantly bailing out transit operations in Portland since late 1969 when TriMet took over the for-profit companies of Rose City Transit"

--->I get a headache reading your posts

"Bicyclists too are the recipients of Federal Highway Trust Funding and taxpayer funded bailout dollars"

--->Those evil bicyclists, sucking down tax dollars. THE HORROR..THE HORROR..

Well, I can't do anymore Portland Transport, I get a headache visiting here lately....

Billy, do you know Jim Karlock?

I hope I am still alive to witness the end of the gas combustion engine.

What a marvelous treat that would be!

A cell phone and a call to 238-ride is the best way to find out when your bus is coming.

Jason, do you really find the schedules accurate?

How many times have I said on this forum;


Let me say it one more time:

FORGET THE FARES, enforcing fares can cause:
1-verbal attacks
2-physical attacks

The system as they have designed is UNENFORCEABLE, its not our problem, forget it!


This is not the appropriate forum for a debate on "what people think" or why they think what they think.

I would like to point out that when the company offered to provide health insurance for the "mini runners" a vast majority of full time operators said to me; "I didn't get health insurance when I was a mini-runner so why the hell should they get it now"? If it had not been for the maintenance employees, part time operators would still not have health insurance

I am not making this up as some way to gain sympathy for my point of view, it as an event as experienced by myself as I went around the company debating this with full time operators.

When the company wanted to offer a 3 day work week for "mini runners" it was consistently voted down each time, by the full time operators, using language as "They are taking work away from us". Us being the full time operators.

I am providing you with my opinion, you are free to reject it completely and believe what you want.

It is a union problem, and and a labor problem. Nobody wants to give up 'their' work to somebody else, its understandable.

If your not a mini runner, and have never been a bus driver, you have no way of knowing what is and is not fact.

-----Original Message-----
From: Highsmith, Wayne
Sent: Tue 11/11/2008 3:59 PM
To: Haley, Greg
Cc: Balgos, Bob; Margulies, Al; Frye, Jay; Hanson, Peggy; OPERATIONS MANAGERS; ''
Subject: RE: Mini Runners - Career Advancement

I am not really sure why this was forwarded to me but I am glad to see that there is no wasted minuted to fuel further seperation of the body who currently make up the workforce whom we call full time and part time ie. mini run. After reading this note it does appear that for the most part this would be an ATU issue not so much a management one. There are apparently some policies that may need to be modified.but to view a statement that has been made in the bullpens since before my employment began here is about as ignorant a blanket statement as anyone would make about a minority and is a view probably shared by a small percentage of operators.

-----Original Message-----
From: Haley, Greg
Sent: Monday, November 10, 2008 2:56 PM
To: Nielsen, Tom; Hawley, Bob; Margulies, Al; Frye, Jay; 'Jon Hunt'; Hanson, Peggy; OPERATIONS MANAGERS; Bus Operators; ''
Subject: RE: Mini Runners - Career Advancement

Please remove me also.

Thanks, Greg

-----Original Message-----
From: Nielsen, Tom
Sent: Monday, November 10, 2008 2:41 PM
To: Hawley, Bob; Margulies, Al; Frye, Jay; 'Jon Hunt'; Hanson, Peggy; OPERATIONS MANAGERS; Bus Operators; ''
Subject: RE: Mini Runners - Career Advancement

Can you take my name off this e-mail trail As maintenance manager at Center St I have no knowledge of this issue nor any comment to make on the issue. Thanks

-----Original Message-----
From: Hawley, Bob
Sent: Monday, November 10, 2008 1:57 PM
To: Margulies, Al; Frye, Jay; 'Jon Hunt'; Hanson, Peggy; OPERATIONS MANAGERS; Bus Operators; ''
Subject: RE: Mini Runners - Career Advancement

How about also adding into the contract a provision where we don't lose vacation transferring from, say PT to FT or other job classifications?

And how about quit penalizing us when we take vacation? Why, as minis, do we get only 5 hrs/day vacation instead of 6? Every time we take vacation, we take a hit, and that's not right.

bob hawley
FT mini runner!

-----Original Message-----
From: Margulies, Al
Sent: Friday, November 07, 2008 11:29 AM
To: Frye, Jay; 'Jon Hunt'; Hanson, Peggy; OPERATIONS MANAGERS; Bus Operators;
Subject: RE: Mini Runners - Career Advancement

Very nice concept!

Passing through a vote of the full time membership which holds a 4:1 advantage over part time membership is another matter.

Unfortunately, "mini runners" (a very disrespectful job title, imo) are in actuality, discriminated against by full time operators.

You hear many of the same complaints about them that are heard about minorities in the general population;

ie: "they are taking away our work" etc.

However, I personally support the concept.

Al M (career "mini runner")

-----Original Message-----
From: Frye, Jay
Sent: Sat 11/1/2008 11:59 AM
To: 'Jon Hunt'; Hanson, Peggy; OPERATIONS MANAGERS; Bus Operators;
Subject: RE: Mini Runners - Career Advancement

Thank you Jon,

Is there a proposal on the table for this coming contract? if not, can we determine if there is a real interest in adding something like this, and if so, can we include it?

Thanks again,
jay Frye


From: Jon Hunt []
Sent: Friday, October 31, 2008 2:50 PM
To: Frye, Jay; Hanson, Peggy; OPERATIONS MANAGERS; Bus Operators;
Subject: RE: Mini Runners - Career Advancement

Jay, this would have to be done during contract negotiation and then ratified by the membership. Jon

From: Frye, Jay []
Sent: Friday, October 31, 2008 12:13 PM
To: Hanson, Peggy; Jon Hunt; OPERATIONS MANAGERS; Bus Operators; ''
Subject: Mini Runners - Career Advancement

Can anyone in this group tell me if there is currently or if there will be in the near future a conversation about mini-runners being able to use their accumulated time to qualify them to apply for some of these career advancement opportunities. Many, otherwise well qualified operators feel they are being penalized for their decision to remain part time.

Please reply to all. Thank you for your time.

Jay Frye

Field Operations Supervisor.

Tuesday, November 11, 2008

The "free" market has failed, so stop blithering on and on about how wonderful it is.

I have been having knock down drag out blog combat with the remnants of this failed imaginary system.

Billions and billions on the military to protect us from phantoms.

Billions handed to failed bankers executive.

All of that money needs to be used for infrastructure!


Transit needs huge subsidies because those subsidies actually benefit the citizens, the ones who use transit and the people employed in transit.


And you free market worshipers, I suggest you watch this video:

Monday, November 10, 2008

Unfortunately, even stupid people that know how to use a computer can participate in blogging.

We see many examples AKA: 'cowboy'.

Why don't ya go back to Texas cowboy, and be with your own kind.

I hear George Bush will be returning there, maybe you two can have a beer together and reflect on what's wrong with this country.

At some point, you have to stop blogging with these conservatives.

Who cares what they think, they are out of power, let em think what they want.

The sad part of all of it is, America is so divided in terms of how we see the world.

It's almost like we are from two separate countries, with nothing in common between us.

Like the civil war continues, nothing was settled between the blue and the gray (red).

The abolitionists against the slave states. The names have just changed.