Tuesday, November 25, 2008



Boy the whining and moaning you guys do over the most ridiculous stuff never ceases to astound me.


Like buildings, sidewalks, TRANSIT CENTERS.

GET OVER YOUR TRIMET PHOBIAS, it makes you all look like ignorant dolts.


"Pouring maple syrup on a cowpie don't make it a pancake Al. People will (rightfully) avoid this station, and Tri Met in general, until they make the system safe."

~~>Nobody has ever explained to me how is it THAT TRIMET IS RESPONSIBLE FOR CRIME IN THE CITIES IT SERVES? Last time I looked crime is HANDLED BY THE POLICE, not the transit agency. Do you call up the police when you need a ride somewhere, no, you call Trimet scheduling or a taxi!

Oh yea, you guys want TRIMET TO PAY FOR IT! Right, as I said previously, TAX DOLLARS ARE TAX DOLLARS ARE TAX DOLLARS. Why don't we (trimet) just open our own police department then, completely independent from all the other existing police departments!

"No they are not and should not be wasted."

~~~>OH I SEE, $700 billion to bankers is not wasted? TRILLIONS spent killing innocent people bankrupting are country are not wasted?

"Light Rail is not sustainable"

~~~>OH, AND THE AUTO INDUSTRY IS? Huh huh, and that's why they are now begging for socialism to save capatalism.

I don't even know why I waste my time trying to reason with unreasonable people such as you folks that comment on the Tribune blog.


"shouldn't Tri Met be responsible for taking measures to install security at its stations or on its trains?"

~~>yes sir, I happen to agree with you here, however this system was designed on the 'honor' system decades ago for reasons that have not fully been explained. Planners should have made entry to max less accessible by securing stations.

HOWEVER, the fact that there might be some people inclined to criminal activity is not the fault of TRIMET!

You contend that somehow TRIMET is reponsible for this behavior, THAT IS ABSURD!

"IF put in a swimming pool, and did not provide a fence, then let anyone and everyone swim there on the honor system, and then someone drowned, you can bet it would be MY BACON for creating a dangerous attraction with no supervision."

~~>That maybe true, however if the person willingly went into your pool then how is that your fault? If some little baby crawled into your pool and drowned then that might be a different story. HOW ARE WE AS A SOCIETY SUPPOSE TO SUPERVISE ALL THE PLACES THAT ADULTS FREQUENT? You want a police officer patrolling every road? That's what your asking of the transit district!

***And the tax dollar issue is a red herring due to all the money that is being flushed down the toilet so as to save the banks and occupy a bunch of innocents in a land that wants nothing to do with us.***


FYI- I AM NOT A LIGHT RAIL SUPPORTER,and there has been an increase in police presence on the system for quite awhile now.


You see nothing good at all, obviously, you were all McCain supporters, focus on the bad, fear, superiority.

Your entitled to feel that way, luckily you're not in control.


"Check the city codes and you would find that simply by HAVING A POOL and NOT FENCING IT, it would be MY FAULT IF ANYONE WERE TO DROWN OR INJURE THEMSELVES in or around my pool."

~~>First of all that is PRIVATE PROPERTY, not usable by the public. Secondly, we do live in a litigious society, which is one of the pitfalls of advanced civilization with multiple levels of bureaucratic systems. Does a public park have a chain link fence on it? Does a city street have a chain link fence?

"In my opinion, by not inspecting for fares, like they used to do when this east side line first came into town, TriMet has created an attractive nuisance."

~~>Your right on this issue, no doubt. But this system was conceptualized 30+ years ago and back then things were "groovy" as you may recall. Yea, that was a stupid thing to do, but this is Portland.

"As for your assertion that I would have to have been a McCain supporter, you could not be any farther off the mark if you tried."

~~>I apologize for that remark. :-(

"In the beginning we were told once light rail was built it would need less money to keep running compared to running buses."

~~>Can you provide any documentation to back up that statement?

"Another genius-level commentary from Al M. the highly educated, dual degree Trimet bus driver."

~~>Here is the usual type of blogger that we run into over here at the TRIBUNE blog. The blogger that has to stoop to some sort of personal attack in order to make themselves feel superior. It's pathetic.

"I will be happyier with Tri-Met when the fare box pays at least 50% of the cost of buses, Trains, tracks, stations and operating cost. It would be a step in the right direction"

~~>Will you please provide me with documentation from any transit system in the world that meets that criteria.

"The purpose of TriMet Bus service is to deliver a small number of the population daily to and from markets, and the cost is justified by additional income tax revenue from business."

~~>I disagree with MARK plenty, but he always understands issues and is literate enough to post complex theories clearly. The above statement is correct.

FURTHERMORE, there is another reason for the light rail fixation, and they never talk about it either:



"Rose City Transit was self supporting and paid taxes before the State and local governments said they could not raise the fare by a nickel."

~~>I would like to see EVIDENCE of this statement. I have asked Jason Mchuff to research this issue.

"It is hard to compete with a government monopoly with taxing authority."

~~>Why don't we just privatize everything then? Like the police and the fire and the water department and the roads. Wonderful idea. THEY CAN ALL FOLLOW THE BANKS EXAMPLES OF HOW TO MANAGE THINGS!


~~>I'm not against that idea, I just don't think it happens anywhere. And why is it such a tremendous crime in your eyes to subsidize movement for people that are unable to afford to purchase, insure, and maintain a private automobile? They hand out subsidies to all sorts of businesses, LIKE THE BANKS FOR THE TUNE OF $700 BILLION, making the whole transit issue A RED HERRING!
"hat does the police,fire,water dept roads and banks have to do with outlawing the private sector from competing with Tri-Met transit monopoly."

~~~>The police, fire, and roads do not allow competition, and the banks are the example of free market failure!

"So are you saying if it is ok to bail out banks it must be ok to bailout Tri-Mets light rail monopoly?"

~~>That's exactly what I am saying! Bailing out multi-million dollar executives is ok in your eyes but subsidizing transit is a big crime eh? Your thinking process needs some fine tuning, SIR!

["Inbreeding Defiles The Gene Pool"]

~~>When you develop the ability to use your mind over your emotions I will attempt to dialog with you.

{"Ever heard of reality?"}

~~>Why don't you try posting in a continuous recognizable blog name, instead of the sniveling coward anonymous way.

I'm used to you guys having been participating on this blog for years now.
Your name calling, attempts to demean me, cowardly anonymity in making your childish posts do not discourage me. Those of you who participate in this sorts of activity just demean yourselves and lower the quality of the TRIBUNE BLOG in general,which is too bad, because I happen to like the PORTLAND TRIBUNE and the way it handles its news stories.
"I'm opposed to bailing out banks and Tri-Met"

~~>Providing public transportation is no different than providing police or fire services, its DOES NOT GENERATE PROFIT.

BTW-Head researcher Jason Mchuff has found that ROSE CITY TRANSIT was about to go out of business!

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